Jensen Huang on Ezra Klein Show: Shut down labs that can't control their models
NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang appeared on The New York Times' Ezra Klein Show, making forceful statements on AI safety and clashing repeatedly with the host. The transcript was published by NYT and NVIDIA's official account reshared the full episode, sparking wide debate in the AI safety community.
Confirmed
- Huang argued that fear of AI is "getting way out of hand" and that he does not want people to fear the technology; he said AI poses no existential threat regardless of how many former lab employees warn otherwise (per @ShakeelHashim, @firstadopter, @AlexTensor).
- He directly attacked OpenAI, Anthropic and AI doomers, saying no one builds more compute than those calling to slow down, and rebutted Geoffrey Hinton's 10% human-extinction estimate. He also dismissed Hinton's prediction that AI would replace radiologists as irresponsible and lacking scientific basis, noting Hinton's past predictions have not come true (per @Hesamation, @AlexTensor, @rohanpaulai).
- Addressing labs' loss-of-control claims, Huang said that if Anthropic, OpenAI, Google or xAI believe they are out of control, they should stop releasing products until they are in control. When Klein described an Anthropic data-leak incident, Huang responded that the product shouldn't have been released; after Klein noted it was never released, Huang went further: labs that admit they cannot control their experiments should be shut down (per @haider, @ShakeelHashim, @dhadfieldmenell, @notkilleveryoneist, @noamyy). Ethan Perez's shared clip highlights Klein's reply that labs withheld the model precisely for that reason, exposing the tension between safety-motivated delays and the chipmaker's stance.
- The "shut down the labs" remark spread widely via Midas Project and others as a sharp rebuke of AI-safety rhetoric; Sneha Revanur noted Huang prefers shutting labs over new legislation, contrasting with figures like YC's Garry Tan (per @ShakeelHashim, @austinc3301).
- NVIDIA's official account shared the full interview with its position: AI is a technology built and improved by people, developers are responsible for deploying it carefully, and helping people benefit from AI means taking its challenges seriously (per @nvidia).
Unconfirmed
- Former OpenAI policy lead Miles Brundage reshared the remarks, arguing those reading them as Huang conceding or being outmaneuvered miss the substance, but his full argument is not detailed in the material (per @MilesBrundage).
Why it matters
- As head of the world's largest AI compute supplier, Huang's public stance on AI safety and doomerism is a bellwether, and his rare named criticism will sharpen the accelerationist-versus-safety divide.
- Critics note the irony that he calls for shutting down labs that can't control their experiments while NVIDIA invests tens of billions of dollars expanding compute; @haider mocked it as a CEO simultaneously hyping loss-of-control risk while asking to relax antitrust and liability laws.
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Primary sources
- [source] Ezra Klein interviews NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang, who says AI fear is out of hand — ShakeelHashim · 2026-09-23
- Jensen Huang on AI safety: if labs can't contain their experiments, 'we have to shut the labs down' — ShakeelHashim · 2026-09-23
- Jensen says uncontrollable labs "have to be shut down" as NVIDIA pours billions into open weights — dhadfieldmenell · 2026-09-23
- Jensen Huang fires back: 'Nobody's building more compute than the people asking to slow down' — Hesamation · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang names three books that shaped him, from Hennessy to 'Positioning' — firstadopter · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang Tells Ezra Klein AI Alarmism Has Gone Too Far, With Nvidia at $5.4T — firstadopter · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: labs claiming their models aren't safe should be shut down — ShakeelHashim · 2026-09-24
- [source] Jensen Huang on The Ezra Klein Show: Industry Must Take AI's Challenges Seriously — nvidia · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: If Labs Say Their Models Aren't Safe, 'We Have to Shut the Labs Down' — sudoraohacker · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: if OpenAI or Anthropic think their models "aren't safe," "we have to shut the labs down" — HanchungLee · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang to AI labs: if you think you're out of control, don't ship until you are — haider1 · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: if models aren't safe 'we have to shut the labs down' — Brundage pushes back — Miles_Brundage · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: if labs admit their models aren't safe, "we have to shut the labs down" — notkilleveryoneist · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang pours cold water on AI fear mongering in rare public pushback — soleio · 2026-09-24
- Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang: AI poses no existential threat — shut down labs that do — AlexTensor · 2026-09-24
- [source] Jensen Huang: if AI labs can't contain their models, 'we have to shut the labs down' — AlexTensor · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: "Just don't ship unsafe models." Ezra Klein: "They didn't ship it. That's the problem." — EthanJPerez · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang says labs must be shut down if they can't contain AI experiments, sparking safetyist debate — NathanpmYoung · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: frontier labs that can't contain experiments should be shut down — davidmanheim · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang: if labs say their models aren't safe, "we have to shut the labs down" — austinc3301 · 2026-09-24
- Jensen Huang slams Hinton's radiology prediction: 'All of his predictions have been wrong' — rohanpaul_ai · 2026-09-25
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