Deep LR-drop loss dips beat shallow ones temporarily, but both converge to same worse curve

dlwh · x · 2026-11-05

Responding to Tatsunori Hashimoto, dlwh shares experiment results on LR scheduling: a large, fast LR drop produces a much deeper temporary loss dip (−0.117/−0.119 validation-loss delta vs baseline across two seeds, versus −0.070/−0.071 for a shallow, slow drop), yet both strategies quickly return to the same loss curve slightly worse than baseline. He adds that it can also significantly increase OOD heldout loss, citing the CF Marin 8B run.

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