After MoE and MTP, local dense models haven't seen architectural speedups

Express_Quail_1493 · reddit · 2026-10-22

A discussion asking when local dense models will get their next speed breakthrough. Most recent gains come from MoE (cutting active vs total params), at the cost of stability — a dense 27B at low total params is more reliable. Since MTP, dense models have seen little architectural attention beyond community finetunes trimming reasoning tokens. With Qwen4-27B coming, is a dense speedup breakthrough likely?

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