Prediction: zeroth-order optimization methods may eventually replace backprop

j_foerst · x · 2026-10-07

A thread concludes that despite sampling-based methods (dust) still being far costlier than backprop, the bitter lesson will hit optimization research too: zeroth-order methods — the simplest form of optimization — may eventually replace backprop entirely, enabling training of non-differentiable architectures and finding better loss-landscape directions than first-order gradients.

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