OpenAI denies Codex prompts influenced training as "stolen chat data" claims unravel
OpenAI formally denied claims that user Codex prompts influenced its models, and the core allegation is widely considered unsupported. After OpenAI announced progress on Navier-Stokes and other Millennium Prize problems, X users accused it of stealing private chat data to fabricate the NS "evidence." OpenAI denied this via a statement relayed by NYT reporter Kenneth Chang, and researchers publicly pushed back against the conspiracy theory.
Confirmed
- Per NYT's Kenneth Chang, an OpenAI spokesperson stated that prompts Dr. Buckmaster entered into Codex over the past two months could not have affected the system in any way, including model training.
- QuintinPope5 relayed that OpenAI's investigation confirmed no user input after July 3 could have affected the system.
- Researcher tszzl recalled joining a call after OpenAI's first announcement where participants tried to craft "lawyerly precise wording" before confirming whether Codex opt-in data entered training; it is now clear that possibility is zero.
- QuintinPope5 called the unsupported claim that OpenAI stole users' private chats "irresponsibly absurd," and tszzl agreed.
Unconfirmed
- The original allegation that OpenAI stole private chat data to fabricate proof has no public evidence and remains a rumor circulating on X.
Why it matters
- The episode touches the trust baseline around whether AI companies use private interaction data for training; OpenAI's shift from "uncertain" to a categorical denial is itself newsworthy.
- The research community's wariness of conspiratorial spread is notable: if OpenAI had accessed personal Codex usage traces it would be serious; if not, its handling appears professional.
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Primary sources
- OpenAI: Codex prompts 'categorically impossible' to have influenced the system or training — charliermarsh · 2026-09-11
- [source] OpenAI denies Codex prompts touched training after baseless chat-data theft claims — QuintinPope5 · 2026-09-11
- Insider: chances are zero that opt-in Codex data made it into OpenAI training runs — soumitrashukla9 · 2026-09-11
- OpenAI denies accessing personal Codex traces amid Navier-Stokes rumor — soumitrashukla9 · 2026-09-11
- [source] Claim that OpenAI stole private chat data for an 'NS proof' called baseless — tszzl · 2026-09-11
- OpenAI denies Codex prompts influenced Navier-Stokes system as drama spirals on X — basedjensen · 2026-09-11
- Researchers clash over baseless claim that OpenAI stole private chat data for NS proof — basedjensen · 2026-09-11
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