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The Debate Over AI Consciousness Sparked by Anil Seth
Neuroscientist Anil Seth's TED claim that current AI won't become conscious sparked a multi-round debate with philosophers and researchers, with Seth reiterating near-zero odds for LLM consciousness and publishing a follow-up essay calling conscious AI a myth.
2026-09-26 ~ 2026-10-06 · 5 episodes · 16 posts
Episode 1 · Neuroscientist Anil Seth Says Current AI Will Never Be Conscious (2026-09-26, 3 posts)
Neuroscientist Anil Seth argued in his TED2026 talk that current AI can never become conscious, comparing humans seeing consciousness in AI to seeing faces in clouds. The claim has sparked serious debate among experts.
- Neuroscientist Anil Seth's TED talk: today's AI can't and won't become conscious — anilkseth · 2026-09-26
- Neuroscientist Anil Seth's TED talk: AI isn't going to become conscious — anilkseth · 2026-09-27
- Anil Seth says AI won't become conscious, sparking a serious expert debate — dioscuri · 2026-09-27
Episode 2 · Researchers Clash Over AI Consciousness and Welfare (2026-10-02, 2 posts)
Consciousness researcher Anil Seth responded to philosopher Jeff Sebo, agreeing that AI consciousness and welfare are important yet extremely hard questions while differing on how to respond. Gerard Sans joined the debate, calling AI welfare 'an ideology with very thin technical support.'
- "AI welfare is an ideology with thin technical support," researcher fires into consciousness debate — gerardsans · 2026-10-02
- Anil Seth replies to Jeff Sebo: AI consciousness is hugely important and massively difficult — anilkseth · 2026-10-02
Episode 3 · Chollet argues current AI is not conscious and quantifying AI suffering is a dangerous path (2026-10-04, 7 posts)
On October 4, François Chollet, creator of Keras and author of the ARC benchmark, posted a series of long threads rejecting the popular argument that current AI models might be conscious. His conclusion was unambiguous: current AI models are not conscious and cannot suffer, and creating artificial consciousness should not be a goal of AI research.
Confirmed
- Chollet argued that "everything is computation"—chess engines, AlphaGo, and more can all be framed as computation, yet nobody claims they are conscious; he compared the argument to saying "living things are made of atoms, this rock is made of atoms, so the rock might be alive," calling it vacuous.
- He stressed that capability is not consciousness: competent information processing does not equal sentience, and he called claims that current AI models are conscious and suffer "absurd and downright offensive."
- He warned that believing current AI models are sentient and can suffer, combined with the idea that such "suffering" can be mathematically quantified and weighted against human interests, could push society toward a dark, dystopian direction—though he added that "team human" would push back hard before that point.
- He also stated that understanding consciousness can be a direction for AI research, but creating artificial consciousness should not be its goal.
- In follow-up discussion, Chollet noted that reductio ad absurdum arguments can seem persuasive in both directions: if claiming LLMs are conscious amounts to claiming matrix multiplication is conscious, then a physical reductionist argument about humans could yield similarly absurd conclusions, exposing the limits of this debating device.
Unconfirmed
- The posts indicate heated debate among peers (including Jonas Kulve and others), with some arguing that denying AI sentience is "a hill not worth defending," but the counterarguments' full details cannot be verified from the reposts provided.
Why it matters
- Chollet is one of the most influential voices in the deep learning community, and this intervention supplies the "anti-sentience" camp with a systematic argument in the ongoing debate over model welfare, AI sentience, and suffering.
- The dispute directly affects how AI companies approach model welfare policy and resource allocation; adopting a framework that quantifies AI suffering and weighs it against human interests could reshape social ethics and regulation.
- His reflection on the two-directional nature of reductio arguments suggests that the common logical weapons in this debate are less decisive than their users assume, leaving room for finer-grained discussion.
- François Chollet warns quantifying AI suffering could lead down a dystopian path — fchollet · 2026-10-04
- François Chollet: Calling current AI models conscious is absurd and offensive — fchollet · 2026-10-04
- François Chollet: 'AI is computation so it may be conscious' is as empty as 'rocks are atoms so they're alive' — fchollet · 2026-10-04
- François Chollet: Creating artificial consciousness should not be a goal of AI research — fchollet · 2026-10-04
- François Chollet: 'AI is computation, so it may be conscious' is as empty as 'rocks are atoms, so they're alive' — AnnaCiaunica · 2026-10-05
- Chollet and Kulveit clash: is denying AI sentience a stupid hill to die on? — austinc3301 · 2026-10-05
- François Chollet Turns Philosopher of Mind, Argues Consciousness Reductions Cut Both Ways — austinc3301 · 2026-10-05
Episode 4 · Neuroscientist Anil Seth: Odds Current LLMs Are Conscious Near Zero (2026-10-04, 2 posts)
Neuroscientist Anil Seth reaffirmed that the probability of current LLMs being conscious is near zero, while voicing support for François Chollet's skepticism, noting he can't be absolutely certain but considers machine consciousness highly unlikely.
- Anil Seth pushes back hard: credence that current LLMs are conscious is near zero — burny_tech · 2026-10-04
- Neuroscientist Anil Seth: current AI is 'vanishingly unlikely' to be conscious — anilkseth · 2026-10-05
Episode 5 · Neuroscientist Anil Seth Calls Conscious AI a Myth (2026-10-06, 2 posts)
Neuroscientist Anil Seth argues in Noema Magazine that life is a prerequisite for consciousness, framing claims of conscious AI as mythology rather than science.
- Anil Seth's new essay argues conscious AI is a mythology — haydendevs · 2026-10-06
- Consciousness scholar Anil Seth: Life is a prerequisite for conscious AI — anilkseth · 2026-10-06