Freezing residual-stream RMS mid-training changes final loss by only +0.0043

tatsu_hashimoto · x · 2026-11-13

A CS312-style experiment from Tatsu Hashimoto: train a 35M-param, 8-layer Transformer LM for 9,375 updates, then pin the post-residual RMS norms halfway through (update 4,688).

Echoes early post-norm vs pre-norm findings about how residual connections and LayerNorm interact during training.

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