KV cache debate: token identities are just 0.00082% of a 400k context's cache bits

aryaman2020 · x · 2026-11-11

A technical exchange on long context: past token identities in a 400k-token context carry 6.89M bits vs 839B bits in the KV cache (64 layers × 8 KV heads × 128 dims × 2 × 16-bit), about 0.00082%. A replier counters that the KV cache is a function of past token identities and can't create new information; steering is floated as a caveat.

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