Pre-training ladder trick: test every recipe change on 300M–6B models first

teortaxesTex · x · 2026-11-07

Cited pre-training work details a rigorous model-ladder methodology: every recipe change is validated on a ladder of small models (300M to 6B active params) before the final run — but the ladder only helps if small models face the same conditions as the big one.

A key pitfall is data: a ladder model trained on 238B tokens (1% of the final run) sampled from the full 13.7T pool always sees fresh data (pool 58x its budget), unlike the final model. The fix is data-limited subsampling — shrinking each source's pool proportionally per ladder size to simulate data-constrained conditions.

Commentator teortaxesTex notes Chinese labs rarely publish such scaling ablations; existing papers focus on MoE granularity, while reports from MAI, TM and others go deeper into strategy.

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