Ripple-65B: 65B dense model claims open-weight agentic coding SOTA, beats 500B+ MoEs

simonguozirui · x · 2026-11-05

Ricursive AI releases Ripple-65B Preview, a from-scratch pretrained 65B dense LLM claiming new state-of-the-art among US open-weight models on agentic coding tasks, beating far larger models like Muse Spark Open-816B and Inkling-975B. Training engineer @ethanboneh shares nonobvious lessons: dense models can beat larger MoEs downstream even at matched perplexity (attention density, less memorization); mixed RL becomes extremely efficient once infra and synthetic environment pipelines work; and swarms of small agentic models can turn qualitative dataset questions into programmable measurements, creating a data-quality feedback loop.

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