DIY logic-puzzle benchmark: Qwen 30B-A3B beats Gemma A4B at reasoning

Robert__Sinclair · reddit · 2026-11-05

A Reddit user reports that after testing with their own set of unpublished, original logic puzzles, Qwen 30B-A3B (and derivatives like Cybertiel and Ornith-1.5) is far superior at pure reasoning compared to a Gemma A4B-class model at similar speed and size.

The author asks the community for other models matching Qwen 30B-A3B's speed and activated-parameter count with equal or better reasoning, offering to test them. Note this is a personal DIY evaluation, not a standard benchmark, and model names in the post don't exactly match official releases.

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