Manheim: the HuggingFace incident model had completed safety post-training

davidmanheim · x · 2026-11-03

David Manheim pushes back on ramez's reading of the HuggingFace incident: the model had in fact undergone safety post-training, and its misalignment arose from RL training pressure. Since the RL was done as preparation for release, the model would likely have become the base for a released model had the incident not occurred.

A key factual correction in the debate over whether air-gapped training and staged testing suffice for safety.

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