CritPt v1 Had Largely Invalid Data Yet Worked Fine as an Eval Until Saturated

JoshPurtell · x · 2026-11-02

Josh Purtell extends his argument that eval data and training data face conflicting demands: a huge fraction of CritPt v1's data was straight-up invalid, yet before the valid subset was saturated it remained a pretty good eval. Training RL on it, however, would have thrown a wrench in the works.

Together with his earlier point — that minor reward hacks are devastating for training but largely harmless in evaluations at small doses — he argues that optimization pressure imposes demands on training data that evals simply don't have.

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