Podcast: How Gemini 4 changed Google Labs product building, with Jaclyn Konzelmann
petergyang · x · 2026-11-01
Latest episode of Peter Yang's "Behind the Craft" podcast (33 min) with Jaclyn Konzelmann, PM Director at Google Labs, on how Gemini 4 changed how Google builds products.
Chapters cover how Gemini 4 changed the PM job, how Labs decides what's worth building, the rule that keeps AI slop out of docs, how Labs ideas end up in the Gemini app, why code is no longer a moat, and raising kids to create with AI — including a Gemini 4 petting zoo game she built for her kids.
Also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and as a newsletter.
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