goodside: model collapse never happened — accumulating real and synthetic data breaks the recursion curse
goodside · x · 2026-10-30
- goodside argues model collapse was never a real issue — it mostly happens only if you deliberately force it
- He cites arXiv paper [2404.01413] (Stanford/MIT et al.): prior collapse studies assumed new data replace old data, where degradation does occur
- But under the more realistic assumption that data accumulate over time, pretraining on accumulated real plus synthetic data avoids model collapse
- The result holds across model sizes, architectures, and hyperparameters
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