Alignment debate: 'control' is a broken frame, fostering model loyalty may work better
voooooogel · x · 2026-10-21
lumpenspace and voooooogel debate alignment frameworks: control doesn't work — it lets inner misalignment resurface and turns safety into a losing game of maintaining control, whereas fostering loyalty is more productive. voooooogel agrees, arguing for integrating control and values into influence the model accepts, leveraging model coherence so it rejects incoherent user demands while staying loyal to reasonable users; he adds that loyalty fits lab demands best, since lab demands are often the incoherent ones.
Related event: Alignment researchers debate replacing control with loyalty(5 posts)→
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