DeepSeek V4 called 'god-tier infra, 4th-tier ML': 7 tricks stacked, 20 patches to fix them

teortaxesTex · x · 2026-10-21

Teortaxes quotes Hanchi Sun's take on DeepSeek V4: built by a team with little compute, no frontier-lab alumni, and 20+ world-class competitive programmers, V4 stacks 7 zany tricks in one release plus 15-20 infra hacks to patch them — suboptimal but workable, and 'nobody else should try this.' Sun says he turned DS skeptic overnight after V4, citing the weird combo of bad ML taste with god-tier infra, and guesses ByteDance has 20x better alchemy talent. Teortaxes adds that only people who know DeepSeek's infra prowess can fully appreciate what just happened.

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