Is SWA the frontier secret sauce? DeepSeek and Kimi chose the hard independent route

burny_tech · x · 2026-10-17

X user teortaxesTex argues that sliding-window attention (SWA) is the real 'frontier secret sauce' — startups spun out of American frontier and near-frontier labs (e.g. Mistral) universally use it, while DeepSeek and Kimi went the hard independent R&D route: MHA→MLA→NSA→DSA (through whatever V4/V4.1 became), plus MoBA and Kimi-Linear. burnytech boosted it with a 'thonk'. The exchange highlights a real architectural split between frontier labs and the top Chinese open-source camps.

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