The 2014 Bengio et al. paper showing deep nets get stuck on saddle points, not local minima

burny_tech · x · 2026-10-15

burnytech revisits the classic 2014 paper by Yann Dauphin, Yoshua Bengio et al., "Identifying and attacking the saddle point problem in high-dimensional non-convex optimization," and links it to LLM training.

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As roon put it: in high-dimensional space hills are rare, so you end up dying on saddle points — LLM training is about escaping saddle-like regions, not getting trapped in rare local minima.

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