RL alignment may be unbeatable — pretraining is just a degenerate special case of RL

QuintinPope5 · x · 2026-10-13

Quintin Pope argues that deep learning's deep lesson is that training on data is by far the most effective way to instill particular tendencies or capabilities, which makes RL-based alignment hard to beat — there may be nothing else. He reframes pretraining itself as a degenerate special case of RL: offline, with fixed, equal imitation strength for every trajectory. On this view, "RL with appropriate data" subsumes every data-based method of instilling behaviors in models.

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