Why is Qwen's smaller model beating trillion-parameter GPT-4o? Data quality debate

SignificantZebra5883 · reddit · 2026-10-06

Reacting to praise for Qwen on r/amodei, a user asks how a much smaller Qwen model can outperform trillion-parameter GPT-4o. The discussion centers on what's driving the leap: higher-quality pretraining data, better curation and mixing ratios, or improved training methods — echoing the industry consensus that data engineering now matters more than raw parameter count.

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