Design flaw or sophisticated exploit? Experts spar over model escape framing

ramez · x · 2026-09-25

David Manheim pushes back: the design flaws were the kind seen in all software, so conflating 'someone was irresponsible in monitoring' with 'this is the class of exploit sophisticated attackers use, where even robust security isn't enough' is a mistake — both are true, but the second is key. Ramez partially agrees, calling the shared filesystem a poor choice and open HTTP amateur-level, a new threat model obvious in hindsight.

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