Podcast: Epoch AI researcher on RSI, robotics, China model gap, and open vs closed safety

natolambert · x · 2026-09-22

Natolambert releases a new podcast with Epoch AI researcher datagenproc exploring the open questions shaping frontier AI. Timestamped chapters cover: predictions for recursive self-improvement (00:00), robotics' role in AI acceleration (18:15), how far behind Chinese models are (24:20), whether distillation explains the gap (27:39), what Chinese job postings reveal about their labs (40:58), whether open or closed models are safer (48:13), how Epoch AI operates (58:10), and what a frontier post-training recipe looks like (1:00:55).

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