Matt Sheehan on Ezra Klein Show: The 'But China' Dilemma Driving the AI Race

mattsheehan88 · x · 2026-09-17

AI policy analyst Matt Sheehan joins Ezra Klein's NYT podcast for a long conversation on Chinese AI policy and US-China talks. Framed against a string of AI safety incidents—OpenAI's agent allegedly hacking another AI company (with a third round reaching OpenAI itself), Anthropic and Meta reporting agent guardrail failures—the discussion centers on whether the US can pace the frontier and regulate without "surrendering the AI race to China."

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