Researcher: Autoregressive Pretraining Dictates Generative Model Floor
kalomaze · x · 2026-08-10
AI researcher kalomaze posted a thread discussing the foundational impact of autoregressive pretraining on model capabilities:
- Limitations of Independence Assumptions: The independence assumptions many generative models rely on are empirically incoherent. Even with sophisticated tricks, this damns the model to a generative modeling floor, unable to properly represent the probability of nonexistent data.
- Piggybacking on Existing Representations: When downstream performance seems comparable, it's often because models piggyback off representations from models that actually learned the joint distribution during autoregressive pretraining.
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