Debate Rages Over Scaling Laws as Pretraining Potential Called Far From Saturated
AI researchers debate whether scaling is still necessary for intelligence, with kalomaze arguing pretraining potential in DeepSeek-V3 checkpoints is far from saturated, amid doubts that Zhipu's new model is anything larger than GLM-5.3/5.4 Vision.
2026-08-21 ~ 2026-08-21 · 3 related posts
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- View: Pretraining Far From Saturated; Scale Not Necessary for Peak Intelligence — kalomaze · 2026-08-21