Forensic analysis claims top 4 Chinese AI labs trained on export-banned NVIDIA Blackwell chips

Puzzleheaded-King584 · reddit · 2026-11-13

Will Depue claims "conclusive forensic evidence" that DeepSeek, Moonshot, MiniMax and Ant Group built their newest models on NVIDIA's Blackwell chips, which are barred from export to China.

The method: a model's initial weight layout depends on the exact GPU, so each GPU+seed combination leaves a hardware fingerprint that survives training into published weights. Analysis of publicly released weights — no insider leaks — allegedly reveals the training hardware.

Unverified independent claim, but if confirmed it would undermine US chip export controls.

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