AI Safety Debate: Are a Model's Offensive and Defensive Cyber Skills Really '~the Same'?

maksym_andr · x · 2026-11-13

Responding to @xeophon's claim that cyber offense and defense require 'the same' model capability, maksymandr pushes back: finding bugs/CVEs is defensive (often framed as 'emergent'), while persistence and active attacking are a different beast that can be differentiated in evals — citing Daybreak Red and Kimi 3.1 results.

The exchange touches an important point for safety evaluation: defensive security skill doesn't automatically imply offensive capability.

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