Why reasoning distillation fails on 9B models: six LoRAs, mixed results

SignificantZebra5883 · reddit · 2026-11-13

A developer training a Slovak legal agent on Qwen shares detailed results from six fresh LoRAs. The same recipe that got a 27B PoC near Opus 5 doesn't transfer cleanly to 9B: thinking lost on the legal-CPT model (10:20), tied on stock chat (15:15), and won on stock base (18:12), while every 9B variant still loses badly to 27B (best 7:23) with notably higher fabrication scores.

Setup: 500M-token legal CPT corpus, 4-bit QLoRA (rank 64, alpha 128, LR 2e-4), two SFT stages (1199 + 400 examples, teacher CoT 1,000 tokens median), evaluated on 30 held-out Slovak court decisions with Opus 5 judging randomized A/B pairs.

Caveats the author flags: tiny eval set, Opus is both teacher and judge, and the 9B (Qwen3.5) vs 27B (Qwen3.8) mismatch means model size isn't isolated. Open questions: is 9B just too small, does CoT need far more examples to overtake no-thinking, and is there an efficient way to teach reasoning without distillation? Long-term plan: apply the recipe to a future 27B Qwen4 inside a Claude Code-style harness with search and RAG.

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