AGI debate: pretraining won because the economy is PDFs, but LLMs still can't learn

akbirthko · x · 2026-11-12

Victor Taelin lays out his AGI thesis: any reasonable definition of AGI implies a system that learns as efficiently as a human, and LLMs clearly fail that bar — weights don't change during conversation, so they learn nothing. Without true infinite context or 10,000x cheaper GPUs, current methods won't scale to AGI in that sense, even if future models become capable of building Dyson spheres. Reposter akbirthko adds his take: pretraining succeeded because the global economy is PDFs, a fact neither Sutton nor LeCun respected.

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