What objective is reasoning solving? HN debates 'reasoning as pathfinding'

gmays · hn · 2026-11-11

Hacker News discusses Alex Wang's essay 'What objective is reasoning solving?' (Reasoning as Pathfinding), which asks a fundamental question: what objective is LLM 'reasoning' actually optimizing?

The essay reframes reasoning as a pathfinding problem: models don't learn to reason directly from the training objective, but bridge pretraining and inference-time search — reasoning traces act like finding a path through a vast space of possibilities toward correct answers. The HN thread debates how this framework relates to scaling, RLHF/RLVR training objectives, whether reasoning can truly be optimized by current objectives, and the role of test-time compute. Worth reading for anyone digging into how reasoning models actually work.

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