Podcast: can AI data centers contain advanced AI? SL5's Lisa Thiergart on lab security

Miles_Brundage · x · 2026-11-10

The Information's AI Deep Dive Ep. 9 features Lisa Thiergart, co-founder and CEO of SL5 Task Force, on whether AI data centers can contain frontier models.

Topics: espionage and insider threats at AI labs, what Security Level 5 means, model theft and distillation, securing models pre-deployment, AI becoming the insider threat, neocloud security and rogue agents, and building a secure AI data center. Thiergart argues the industry should build logical controls by spring 2027, then physical controls.

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