Hugging Face spent 800k GPU hours writing the ultimate open MoE training handbook

Thom_Wolf · x · 2026-11-06

Hugging Face co-founder Thom Wolf announced "The Ultimate MoE Training Handbook," free and open. Motivation: 18 of the 20 best open models today are MoE, dense is basically over — yet the know-how to train good MoE lives in only a handful of teams.

HF ran 800k GPU hours of experiments and documented everything around the questions training teams actually hit: how many experts and how big, shared or not; why half the step is spent in all-to-all and how to hide it; why a run goes 25x slower with no logged errors; softmax vs sigmoid vs sqrt(softplus) routers and why to keep them in fp32; aux loss vs DeepSeek's loss-free bias; and how to upcycle a dense checkpoint into MoE.

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