Ripple ladder shows data beats architecture: 4x gains from new dataset vs 3x from new arch

finbarrtimbers · x · 2026-11-05

Finbarr Timbers highlights a striking finding from Ricursive Intelligence's Ripple model ladder: data matters more than architecture.

Ripple 1.6 vs Olmo 3 kept the same dataset but introduced a new architecture, yielding 3x improvement, while final Ripple vs 1.6 kept the same architecture but swapped in a new dataset, yielding 4x. Ripple-65B Preview, pretrained on 12T tokens with 1M context, scores 80.52 on TerminalBench 2.1 — US open-weight SOTA, beating Reflection Beam 501B (80.1) and Meta Muse Spark Open 816B (76.4) — reportedly at one-tenth the usual frontier training cost.

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