Qwen base model looped on 93% of MATH-500, casting doubt on claimed 6x gain

paul_cal · x · 2026-11-03

A claimed 6x improvement (attributed to "Astra") looks inflated: the Qwen base model was stuck in loops, with 93% of its MATH-500 answers running to the 32k token limit — a behavior Qwen's model card warns about. Deleting a single direction behind a behavior is a known trick (previously used to strip refusals), and Astra needed 50 rounds of model runs to find it. On Gemma 270M, which doesn't loop, the change added nothing — so the 6x was measured against a broken baseline.

Original post →

More from Models

Models channel →