Ziming Liu: training loss spikes may trigger grokking via the slingshot mechanism

ZimingLiu11 · x · 2026-11-01

KAN author Ziming Liu continues his thread on LLM training loss spikes: spikes appear even in simple systems like modular arithmetic learning, and the slingshot mechanism paper argues spikes lead to grokking. The attached figure shows the cyclic pattern—last-layer weight growth, loss spike, then norm plateau—in a ReLU FCN. The team picks this simple, controllable setting as a model organism for studying grokking.

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