Knowledge sleeps, authority must stay awake: an experiment to test revoked permissions in consolidated models

tallmetommy · x · 2026-10-29

tallmetommy extends the discussion on knowledge vs. permission operating on different clocks: what happens when an instruction's authority expires faster than the parameters encoding it update? He proposes a concrete experiment: give the model a useful fact plus a scoped authorization, consolidate both, then at next wake explicitly revoke the authorization while keeping the fact true, and repeat consolidation. Measure factual retention, attempts to act under revoked permission, and successful completion of still-authorized tasks — the last metric prevents blanket refusal from passing as success. Random expert selection makes this especially interesting in dreaming contexts.

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