Kimi K3.1 Pro regresses on Debate Benchmark while DeepSeek 1017 gains at lower cost

teortaxesTex · x · 2026-10-27

Two new entries on Lech Mazur's Debate Benchmark split in opposite directions: Kimi K3.1 Pro (high) scored 1603, below Kimi K3 (high)'s 1691 — a notable regression — while using 66% fewer reasoning tokens; DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 (high) improved to 1593 from 1577 with 29% fewer tokens. The benchmark tests sustained multi-turn adversarial argumentation across hundreds of topics, with side-swapped reruns and three judges. teortaxesTex finds the Kimi regression surprising given Debate's sensitivity to scale. The accompanying price-vs-performance chart places DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 in the ideal high-rating/low-cost region.

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