Researchers debate: can heuristics replace gradient updates in overparameterized nets?

jonasgeiping · x · 2026-10-23

NYU researcher Jonas Geiping and giffmana debate whether neural nets require gradient-based training. giffmana offers an optimistic counter: with the right inductive biases and a well-organized parameter space (like the Transformer), things could be far less pessimistic. Geiping responds that overparameterized nets can indeed be updated with tailored heuristics — but the flip side applies: if the problem were that well-conditioned, why not use gradients, the only tool that updates a high-dimensional model in all directions simultaneously?

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