Rumor: DeepSeek V4.1 Pro not coming soon, sparking >1T-scale architecture doubts

teortaxesTex · x · 2026-10-23

An unverified leak says DeepSeek won't ship a V4.1 Pro in the short term. Commenters speculate a flagship training setback and question whether this broad architecture family works at >1T scale, noting V4.1-Flash is strong — a risk for compute-poor, talent-rich labs that can't afford a scaling ladder. Attached paper figure shows V4.1-Flash's 40-layer design: 20-layer causal encoder + 20-layer decoder, all feed-forward layers using DeepSeekMoE, first two encoder layers with sliding-window attention and the rest Compressed Sparse Attention 2 (CSA2) with configurable ratio/mode, plus Single-Pass mHC, Engram, DSpark, and a Hierarchical Sparse Indexer; the paper positions Flash as a new starting point for joint scaling of architecture, pre-training and post-training.

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