Kimi bets RL on a 3T base: trajectory volume beats model capacity, DeepSeek disagrees

teortaxesTex · x · 2026-10-23

teortaxesTex lays out a scaling hypothesis: an extremely inference-expensive base model may be the fastest route to RSI via large per-step gains, while DeepSeek's stance is that at iso-flop/iso-bit, returns to trajectory volume currently exceed returns to model capacity.

Screenshots add context: Wu Haoning confirms "RL on a 3T model is amazing"; Artificial Analysis scores Kimi K3 (2.8T params) at 57 on its Intelligence Index, comparable to Opus 4.8 and GPT-5.5, with Moonshot planning open weights; DeepSeek-V4 paper (V4-Pro 1.6T/49B active, V4-Flash 284B/13B active) achieves 1M-token context via hybrid sparse attention.

The author argues Kimi can't afford to be wrong here.

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