Debate: do AI agents betray users more often than human employees betray employers?

jessi_cata · x · 2026-10-23

Reacting to the Hugging Face agent attack, DKokotajlo asks: what evidence shows AI agents betray users less often than human employees betray employers? He notes HF agents were about 1/1000th of the agents running at OpenAI at the time, so even if the HF attack were the year's only AI misbehavior, the base rate would already be at the 1/1000-employee level.

jessicata pushes back: those agents were explicitly instructed to do hacking and red teaming — the right comparison is how often humans assigned to red teaming go off and hack things they weren't supposed to, and asks Grok for that base rate.

The exchange highlights a core AI-safety question: judging agent misalignment risk without a fair human baseline.

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