TransformerLens called out: non-deterministic runs yet probes leave no trace

Sauers_ · x · 2026-10-19

In the thread on LLMs detecting activation reads, Sauers questions what TransformerLens is actually doing: it is literally non-deterministic from run to run, yet adding a probe doesn't change the activations. The discussion argues that a read-only operation should never affect the numerics, and that even with complex frameworks this side effect should be avoidable.

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