First-hand: two SAE features both labeled 'user turn start' encode user-type differences

voooooogel · x · 2026-10-18

Following up his SAE critique, voooooogel shares a first-hand example: while RL-training a model, he watched SAE feature distributions shift at the start of a user turn from one feature to another — yet both features were labeled 'START OF USER TURN' with identical top activating tokens.

Inspecting max activating examples revealed a real difference: one user type roleplayed or requested code in a brusque way, the other was more 'normal' — subtle and hard to characterize. He doubts a Claude agent could find this without burning heavy tokens on experiments, and infers that detectable-from-examples structure like this signals real information — supporting his point about auto-interp struggling with linguistically inexpressible distinctions.

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