Dust paper: first zeroth-order method to pretrain transformers, 1000x over SOTA ES

burny_tech · x · 2026-10-17

The Dust paper introduces the first zeroth-order method to pretrain transformers, approaching and sometimes exceeding backprop with heavy compute. Key claims: 1,000–10,000x more compute-efficient than EGGROLL, the state-of-the-art ES method; chosen because pretraining transformers is arguably the hardest task for zeroth-order optimization; and high-dimensional search improves with overparameterization at fixed population size. A researcher digesting it notes many implementation details are unexplained and is reverse-engineering the math in a blog post.

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