EpochAI pegs GPT-6 training at up to 1.8e27 FLOP; scaling01 calls param estimates way too high

scaling01 · x · 2026-10-16

EpochAI, in a New York Times visualization of the math behind AI training, estimates GPT-6 (Astra) pretraining at a median 223M Blackwell GPU-hours (3.75e26 FLOP), RL at 0.19x pretraining FLOP, and total training compute median 9.4e26 FLOP (p95: 1.8e27), with pretraining running a median 88 days on 100K GPUs.

scaling01 argues the total compute estimate is fine but flaws abound: the 5.35x pretraining-to-RL ratio seems silly; since GPT-5.5 (April 23) was trained on Stargate Abilene—likely along with GPT-5.3-Codex, 5.4 and the 5.6 family—Astra's pretraining can't have used all 100K GPUs on average, and probably just ran later (early May–late July); and the parameter estimates ignore sparsity and looping trends, making them obviously too high.

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