Thinky's Dimuon FAQ: no RL gains over AdamW, tune learning rate only

eliebakouch · x · 2026-10-15

Thinky's Dimuon optimizer FAQ answers key questions: in their experiments, Dimuon performs about the same as AdamW when doing RL without SFT — no improvement. Optimizer state resets between training stages unless you resume via createtrainingclientfromstatewithoptimizer. For Dimuon, they recommend tuning only the learning rate, since instability usually means it's too large; beta1 and gradclipnorm can be left alone. Author eliebakouch notes he was surprised it doesn't change RL.

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