Malik's three levels of manipulation: LLMs live on top, robots stall on forces and torques

le_james94 · x · 2026-10-13

First post of lejames94's thread: Jitendra Malik's ETH lecture splits robot manipulation into three levels, each named for a thinker — goals and plans (Aristotle: "I want to make an omelet"; language models live here), trajectories (Euclid: the same pickup verb looks nothing alike on a sugar cube vs a heavy tray), and forces and torques (Newton: grip force, friction, gravity, contact — the hard part).

A language model can write the omelet recipe; robots stall on the bottom two levels, needing to crack the egg 99.99% of the time across locations, objects, and clutter. His slide's status board: navigation close to solved (GOAT: 83% across 9 unseen homes), locomotion moving fast (VideoMimic: human video → sim → real), manipulation wide open (needs multi-fingered hands and touch).

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