Persimmon's user simulator stays research-only: no monetization over ethical concerns

niloofar_mire · x · 2026-10-06

niloofarmire says Persimmon—her pick for the most exciting model release from a new Western lab in months—isn't commoditizing its user simulators: access is limited to research, and the team won't monetize it due to ethical and misuse concerns. willcb had argued realistic user simulators are underrated and likely quietly powering RL environments as a private API.

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