Robotics pioneers split on humanoid timelines: action data, not LLMs, is the bottleneck

Scobleizer · x · 2026-09-28

Scobleizer polled robotics pioneers in San Francisco on generalized humanoids: a small minority say 10 years, the rest say sooner. Quoting Anto's analysis: OpenAI shut down its robotics team in 2021 over the data problem — a frontier VLM doesn't fix it. The internet has no torques, contact forces, proprioception, or failure-recovery trajectories; 'how' data must be physically collected at hourly cost and doesn't scale like tokens. Embodiment fragmentation further breaks the data pool, and cross-embodiment transfer isn't free.

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